Mat and Rob were struggling artists/jackass wanna be's trying to form a band and pass their first school tests ever... though so were Carl and Ian. So anyways, they were all on the rugby team and Carl and Ian were evesdropping on Rob and Mat in hopes to hear something wth the sexual arousement equivelent to a fat plumber who's lost his sandwitch in a pipe but instead (to their disappointment) heard them blabber on about how they needed to start a new band and then the next day, it began... enough wit that... we started out as a sort of experimental kind of band, playing all kinds of music from Iron Maiden to silverstein. Eventually we established what kind of band we wanted to be and away we went. Rob discovered he could scream, Mat and Carl learnt how to sing. thats how it began